InDesign CS Bible Made In Quark

InDesign CS Bible by Galen Gruman made with Quark
Adobe InDesign CS Bible–Made with Quark! 

In the lat­est issue of QuarkParticles, Quark’s online newslet­ter, is an edi­to­r­i­al not­ing that an uniden­ti­fied InDesign how-to book pro­mot­ed by CreativePro​.com, pub­lish­ers of InDesign Magazine, was clear­ly cre­at­ed in QuarkXPress.

In the pre-trim sam­ple chap­ter PDF, made direct­ly from the final ver­sion sent to press, the crop­marks, reg­is­tra­tion marks, and page infor­ma­tion is vis­i­ble. In the page infor­ma­tion is the name of the elec­tron­ic file con­tain­ing the excerpt­ed chap­ter: “ch05.qxd.”

Though QuarkParticles does­n’t iden­ti­fy the book or the author not­ed as “an expert in both soft­ware pro­grams,” nor does the pub­li­ca­tion pro­vide the loca­tion of the sam­ple chap­ter host­ed on CreativePro​.com, the truth isn’t dif­fi­cult for an astute observ­er to discover.

The book is, of course, Galen Gruman’s Adobe InDesign CS Bible.

InDesign CS Bible by Galen Gruman made with Quark
A sam­ple page from the “InDesign CS Bible” as made avail­able online as a sam­ple chap­ter was clear­ly cre­at­ed in Quark 

Gruman also wrote the last three edi­tions of the QuarkXPress Bible (for Quark 4, 5, & 6), as well QuarkXPress For Dummies for the same versions.

Gruman could not be reached for com­ment at the time of this writ­ing, [A state­ment from Gruman to QuarkVSInDesign appears in the com­ments to this post. –Ed.] but how he came to use Quark for lay­ing out an InDesign ref­er­ence book is not dif­fi­cult to intu­it. He has been writ­ing and updat­ing the QuarkXPress Bible much longer than he has been writ­ing InDesign’s. Since the Bible series from Wiley all have the same for­mat and style guide, Gruman clear­ly used his exist­ing Quark tem­plates rather than port­ing them over to InDesign. Still, it looks bad for InDesign, and it gives Quark incred­i­ble ammunition.

Considered one of the most com­pre­hen­sive ref­er­ences for InDesign CS, the fact that Gruman’s Adobe InDesign CS Bible was built in Quark, how­ev­er it came to be, is ter­ri­bly embar­rass­ing for Wiley Publishing, Inc., for Galen Gruman, and, most of all, for Adobe. Not only does Adobe make InDesign, but its Technical and Expert Support depart­ments offi­cial­ly endorse the Adobe InDesign CS Bible, rec­om­mend­ing it to Adobe customers.

If you care to see for your­self, CreativePro​.com has made avail­able the above pic­tured Chapter 5 from Adobe InDesign CS Bible as a down­load­able PDF. Despite the appar­ent hypocrisy of its cre­ation, the Adobe InDesign CS Bible is an excel­lent ref­er­ence resource for InDesign CS.

8 thoughts on “InDesign CS Bible Made In Quark

  1. Samuel John Klein

    Maybe it looks bad for InDesign for this one. I pre­dict it will blow over.

    The e‑newsletter “Quark Particles” is a strange lit­tle beast­ie. Tone makes a very big impres­sion on me, and the tone of the newslet­ter is mild irrev­er­ence of a stud­ied sort…so obvi­ous­ly stud­ied that it’s a lit­tle embar­ras­ing to read. This makes it a lit­tle hard for me to take seriously.

    And the fact that Quark maybe thinks that I will take this as some sort of vote of no-confidence in InDesign…well, I find that a lit­tle bit insulting.

  2. Pariah S. Burke

    Actually, it was tak­en quite seri­ous­ly by cer­tain inter­est­ed parties.

    I’ll with­hold fur­ther com­ment until I receive an offi­cial state­ment (or enough time has passed to safe­ly say that no offi­cial com­ment will be forthcoming).

  3. Pariah S. Burke

    When this sto­ry first broke, I con­tact­ed the author of Adobe InDesign CS Bible, Galen Gruman, for a comment.

    His state­ment includes a per­fect­ly log­i­cal explanation:

    Galen Gruman: “The pub­lish­er, John Wiley & Sons, has a stan­dard pub­lish­ing plat­form, QuarkXPress 4, so it pro­duces all its books on it. I as the author have noth­ing to do with their plat­form deci­sions and it is mis­lead­ing to insin­u­ate by cit­ing that book’s chap­ter that it means any­thing about the rel­a­tive strengths of either program.”

  4. Pariah S. Burke

    Nah. It isn’t that surprising.

    Look at it this way: Quark 5 is con­sid­ered by most to be an irrel­e­vant main­te­nance release. Very, very few seri­ous orga­ni­za­tions spent the dough for Quark 5. It sim­ply did­n’t pro­vide enough inno­va­tion or new util­i­ty to jus­ti­fy the investment.

    Quark 6 is OS X only and it only saves back to ver­sion 5 , which, in a book pub­lish­ing work­flow, requires every­one from the edi­tors to the proofers to the imposers to the RIP sta­tions to be upgrad­ed to Quark 6–or at least 5. Since 5 isn’t typ­i­cal­ly worth the invest­ment, and 6 requires every sta­tion to be upgrad­ed to a new OS–which also means buy­ing new com­put­ers (for many) and upgrad­ing all oth­er mission-critical soft­ware in the workflow–many com­pa­nies are elect­ing to remain on Quark 4.1 until their bud­gets allow them to upgrade the entire work­flow, hard­ware and software.

    Besides: Look at Wiley’s books. I’m not knock­ing them by any means, but they don’t need the fea­tures of Quark 6. For what Wiley pro­duces, Quark 4.1 does the job.

    Quark 4.1 is still very sta­ble and still very much a part of the pub­lish­ing indus­tries; most news­pa­pers still run XPress and QPS 4.1, by the way.

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  6. Joni

    This is just more along the lines of Apple ver­sus Windows, Mac ver­sus PC, Word ver­sus WordPerfect, dogs ver­sus cats, roll the toi­let paper from the top ver­sus roll the toi­let paper from the bot­tom, etc., etc., etc., (loose­ly quot­ing Yul Brynner in “The King and I”)… But it is a pret­ty big “Oops!”!!

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