Newest Quark Defectors Are Big Names

Three leading advertising and branding agencies announce their formal switch from QuarkXPress for page layout to InDesign CS.

Joining the who’s-who pub­lish­ing, adver­tis­ing, and brand­ing ros­ter that includes Bernstein-Rein Advertising, Goodby, Silverstein & Partners, GSD&M, The Integer Group, Landor Associates, Publicis West, and Schadler Kramer Group, are big names Oglivy & Mather, DDB Worldwide, and Wunderman.

Ogilvy & Mather, a lead­ing adver­tis­ing agency with 312 offices in 89 coun­tries, is stan­dard­iz­ing on InDesign CS across its world­wide agency net­work as part of an all-Adobe Creative Suite work­flow. InDesign’s abil­i­ty to import native Photoshop and Illustrator files into InDesign lay­outs is more pro­duc­tive than flat­ten­ing or using inter­me­di­ary for­mats like TIFF or EPS, accord­ing to art direc­tors at Ogilvy & Mather Los Angeles. The agency also sees oth­er cre­ative and pro­duc­tion ben­e­fits in their new InDesign-based workflow.

“The abil­i­ty to cre­ate blends and trans­paren­cies with­in InDesign con­tributes to sig­nif­i­cant time sav­ings, while the software’s advanced typo­graph­i­cal con­trols enables design­ers to cre­ate sophis­ti­cat­ed type treat­ments to meet the needs of our clients,” said John Lopez, stu­dio man­ag­er at Ogilvy & Mather. â€œThe ease of cre­at­ing soft­ware scripts for InDesign CS is enabling us to auto­mate many repet­i­tive process­es such as prepar­ing ads to meet spe­cif­ic pub­lish­er­s’ requirements.”

After switch­ing its world­wide oper­a­tions to InDesign CS at the begin­ning of 2004, DDB Worldwide has seen the tight inte­gra­tion among com­po­nents of Adobe Creative Suite stream­line their work­flow, allow­ing more time for exper­i­men­ta­tion in cre­at­ing ads for clients such as Microsoft, Philips, and Safeco. And the deci­sion was not sole­ly from with­in DDB Worldwide. Many of the agen­cy’s top clients man­dat­ed that their work be cre­at­ed and pro­vid­ed to print ven­dors in InDesign CS format.

Wunderman, whose inte­grat­ed stu­dio ser­vices group pro­vides print pro­duc­tion ser­vices for brand-name clients includ­ing Ford, Kraft, and Citibank, tells a sim­i­lar tale.

“Our cre­ative and pro­duc­tion staffs took to InDesign CS immediately,” said Steve Gleason, direc­tor of inte­grat­ed stu­dio ser­vices, Wunderman Chicago. “We were pro­duc­ing all of our ads using InDesign CS and the oth­er com­po­nents of Adobe Creative Suite in less than one month. Since then, we have increased our pro­duc­tiv­i­ty, cre­at­ing more ads of even high­er qual­i­ty with­out adding staff.”

“InDesign CS is help­ing the world’s top adver­tis­ing agen­cies bring cre­ative ideas to life in excit­ing and pro­duc­tive ways,” said Jim Heeger, senior vice pres­i­dent of Creative Professional prod­ucts at Adobe. “Their incred­i­ble work inspires us to find new ways to improve design work­flows and fur­ther enhance the role of design in the adver­tis­ing community.”

For more than a decade, since beat­ing rival Aldus PageMaker in the ear­ly Nineties, Denver, Colorado-based Quark, Inc.‘s QuarkXPress was the stan­dard in page lay­out and pub­lish­ing appli­ca­tions. That stan­dard was chal­lenged by Adobe Systems, Inc. with the 1998 release of InDesign 1.0, though it was not until the release of InDesign CS, the third full ver­sion of the prod­uct in late 2003 that major agen­cies began to leave QuarkXPress behind. Since then a heat­ed bat­tle, dubbed Desktop Publishing War II, has raged between InDesign and QuarkXPress, and between their mak­ers, Adobe Systems, Inc. and Quark, Inc., two com­pa­nies whose bit­ter rival­ry is more per­son­al and more pub­li­ci­sized than the one between Apple Computers and Microsoft.

So titan­ic is the bat­tle between Quark and InDesign that it has spawned thou­sands of mag­a­zine, news­pa­pers, and web­site arti­cles, sev­er­al books to facil­i­tate users’ switch­ing from one to the oth­er, and even a ded­i­cat­ed news source, the three year-old, self-described “war cor­re­spon­dant,” Quark VS InDesign​.com.

3 thoughts on “Newest Quark Defectors Are Big Names

  1. Greg

    There is ONE major fea­ture between the two pro­grams that even the most diehard Quark-fan can­not dispute.

    The cost.

    Quark XPress 6.5 as of this writ­ing costs $1,019.00 in a major mail-order cat­a­log. The ENTIRE Adobe Creative Suite (InDesign, Illustrator, Photoshop, GoLive and Acrobat – FIVE pro­grams) costs $1,140.00 in the same catalog.

    If you still want­ed to go with Quark XPress, to accom­plish your work you’d still have to pur­chase Photoshop (or a com­peti­tor), Illustrator/FreeHand, and Acrobat Pro. Purchased sep­a­rate­ly, these costs can eas­i­ly be $1,500. Of course, that means that if you want­ed to run a pro­duc­tive pre­press shop, print­er, or design stu­dio, you would still like­ly buy the entire Adobe Creative Suite in order to save on those three pro­grams. Which means you would get InDesign “thrown in”. So why not use it?

    And train­ing costs? Hah. If you can use Illustrator you can use InDesign. If you are famil­iar with Quark you can make the switch eas­i­ly enough. Any indus­try pro­fes­sion­al who needs 2 days of inten­sive train­ing to learn the essen­tials of InDesign should be test­ed for drugs. Or giv­en some.

    Quark con­tin­ues to off­set their huge devel­op­ment costs of all of their failed soft­ware ven­tures by charg­ing more and more for their ONE good prod­uct: Quark XPress. Don’t get me start­ed on Quark XPress Passport Edition, which costs $1,895 and comes with a trou­ble­some USB don­gle. InDesign has all of its fea­tures and MORE at 1/3 the price.

    There is no rea­son to use Quark XPress unless you are tied to a Quark Copydesk sys­tem at a major pub­lish­er. My $0.02

  2. Pariah S. Burke

    Thanks for the com­ments, Greg.

    There are a few points I’d like to dis­pute, though:

    Quark XPress 6.5 as of this writ­ing costs $1,019.00 in a major mail-order cat­a­log. The ENTIRE Adobe Creative Suite (InDesign, Illustrator, Photoshop, GoLive and Acrobat – FIVE pro­grams) costs $1,140.00 in the same catalog.

    Are those amounts in U.S. dol­lars? If so, don’t buy any­thing from that cat­a­log. Quark 6.5 retails for US$945, and Creative Suite Premium for US$1,299.

    Your point about the costs of the entire work­flow are valid. Buying the entire Creative Suite Premium, with its five point prod­ucts, is effec­tive­ly the equiv­olant cost of any two of those prod­ucts. This is the main ben­e­fit to the suite mod­el of soft­ware sale. Just look what it did for the busi­ness appli­ca­tion space in the ear­ly Nineties when Microsoft’s Office Suite tram­pled WordPerfect right out of business.

    And train­ing costs? Hah. If you can use Illustrator you can use InDesign. If you are famil­iar with Quark you can make the switch eas­i­ly enough. Any indus­try pro­fes­sion­al who needs 2 days of inten­sive train­ing to learn the essen­tials of InDesign should be test­ed for drugs. Or giv­en some.

    I have to dis­agree with you there. Granted, I make my liv­ing in part by train­ing peo­ple to switch from Quark to InDesign, but, by virtue of that part of my career, I know that dif­fer­ent peo­ple learn in dif­fer­ent ways. I train peo­ple all over North America to use Quark, InDesign, Creative Suite, and many oth­er prod­ucts. Though InDesign is intu­itive, it does take time to learn–especially when one is pro­duc­tive in Quark.

    Tools and fea­tures behave dif­fer­ent­ly. Where Quark puts the major­i­ty of its func­tions in dia­log box­es, InDesign puts them on palettes that are orga­nized dif­fer­ent­ly than Quark. Terminology dif­fer­ences are anoth­er stum­bling block–for exam­ple: If Quark is your bread and but­ter, the term “runaround” is plain English to you . Trying to find runaround set­tings in InDesign is often frus­trat­ing. Coming from know­ing only Quark, many users don’t intu­itive­ly grasp that, not only is it on a palette instead of a dia­log, but the func­tion is called (the more log­i­cal) “text wrap”. Further, to get to the Text Wrap palette one must nav­i­gate a two-deep menu.

    Some people–obviously you and I as well–pick it up eas­i­ly. Others need expert guid­ance, espe­cial­ly from some­one who under­stands their work, how they did it in Quark, and how they can do it just as pro­duc­tive­ly, if not bet­ter, in InDesign.

    Quark XPress Passport Edition, which costs $1,895 and comes with a trou­ble­some USB don­gle. InDesign has all of its fea­tures and MORE at 1/3 the price.

    Passport Edition no longer uses the don­gle as an anti-piracy mea­sure. They dropped that with ver­sion 6.

    Agreed, InDesign has most of the fea­tures of Passport in the stan­dard version.

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